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People are the key differentiator in successful supply chains, says Avnet's Gerry Fay. That's why his company works so hard to develop its logistics leaders.

Logistics leaders are critical to supply chain success, which is why Gerry Fay, the chief global logistics and operations officer for the giant electronics distributor Avnet Inc., wants to make sure his company wins the "war for talent."

Gerry Fay By that he means the search for people who not only have the right skills but also are strategic, long-term thinkers with an understanding of how logistics fits into a global supply chain. Those characteristics are important to Avnet Logistics, whose operation spans the globe and ships 7.3 million orders per year on behalf of the 700 suppliers that make up the company's client base. But Fay's ultimate challenge is to serve an even larger constituency: more than 100,000 end customers in 80 countries.


Fay is responsible for global warehousing, semiconductor programming, computer and integration center services and operations, global trade compliance, and risk mitigation. He joined Avnet in 2005 as its senior vice president of global strategic accounts for Avnet United and created the Avnet Velocity global supply chain practice at Avnet Electronics Marketing. In that role, he led the expansion of a key accounts program designed to provide global support services to Avnet's top customer base.

He met recently with Supply Chain Quarterly Group Editorial Director Mitch Mac Donald to discuss his career, Avnet's logistics operations, and his company's strategy for developing logistics talent.

Name: Gerry Fay
Title: Chief Global Logistics and Operations Officer
Organization: Avnet Inc.
Education: University of Redlands (California), Bachelor of Science in Finance and Master of Business Administration
Business Experience: President, Americas, Memec LLC; chief operating officer, ATLAS Services, a division of VEBA Electronics
CSCMP Member: Since 2008

What are your key responsibilities?
To think about the supply chain and the way we plan, source, make, and deliver. That naturally and ultimately includes everything related to making deliveries, integration of our cable and connector assembly facilities, our programming facilities, and then all of our warehousing facilities on a global basis. I oversee our corporate operational excellence program and a group called Avnet Velocity, through which we sell supply chain services to our supplier customer base.

What are some of the biggest changes in logistics you've seen during your career?
The two biggest changes have been changing customer expectations and what I call a "war for talent." Regarding the first, changing customer expectations, it used to be that if you got an order and you told the customer they'd get it in a week, they would be OK with that. Now, they expect things to happen overnight. ... With that, the challenge for us in logistics is, how do we get that profitable proximity? How do we get close enough to satisfy the customer while still being able to have a logistics infrastructure that is supportable and cost-effective?

As to the war for talent, we are now expecting our logistics leaders to be a lot more strategic and to have a broader set of experiences. We want them to be knowledgeable, for instance, in how you set up logistics operations in emerging markets. We want them to know how you deal with different cultures, different laws, and different export and import rules.

Can you point to anything that has remained constant over the years?
The main thing that hasn't changed is that people are the key differentiator. Just about any company can go buy the latest conveyance, the latest WMS (warehouse management system), or the latest AS/RS (automated storage and retrieval system) and integrate it. The differentiator is how well your people are integrated into your operations.

We are very focused on employee engagement at Avnet because we believe if our employees are fairly paid, continue to be educated, are focused on doing their job, and have the tools to do that, that will translate to delighted customers, which means we will get more business, which means we can hire more logistics people. We see a nice, healthy, symbiotic relationship between employee engagement and customer engagement. For me, the biggest challenges I've had in my career in fixing logistics operations usually came down to management and employee engagement.

You used a term I haven't heard before: "war for talent." How does a company like Avnet approach that?
The fundamental thing we do is succession planning. Through many levels down through the organization, we have identified who are our major succession candidates, who are our key players, and who are folks who need development. Then, we create development plans. Our ultimate goal is to grow people up [through] the organization.

As folks move up the ladder, are they primarily coming out of logistics and supply chain management, or are they coming from other areas of the company?
It is a little bit of both. For the most part, they work their way through the logistics organization over time. One benefit we've had at Avnet is that because we have acquired so many companies, we generally get a look at the best talent that exists in the industry. One of the things that we say at Avnet when we do an acquisition is "Best people, best practice," and we really believe in that.

When we acquire a company, we look at the talent they have and determine if the talent is as good as or better than the talent we already have, and as much as possible, we will bring in those folks that we think can add to our talent base. I don't think most companies involved in an acquisition spend as much time evaluating the talent from businesses they acquire because a lot of times, it's all about synergies. When we do an acquisition, we are looking at both the Avnet folks and the acquired company's folks to really pick best of breed.

What's the next big challenge for managers striving for logistics excellence?
As operations expand around the world, driving efficiency, effectiveness, and standardization becomes a bit of a challenge. A lot of companies have not designed their logistics networks to support future growth.

The next big thing, I think, is logistics leaders looking out in three- to five-year chunks about what emerging markets their companies are getting into and starting to plan what their logistics infrastructure will need to look like. It used to be, "Hey, we are going to open up here, find us a warehouse and use a 3PL (third-party logistics provider)," but there wasn't a lot of thought of connecting those because business generally was fairly local. Now that it is global, a lot of times the customer will be in the United States this week, and then move its manufacturing to Asia and expect you to move the supply chain. You've got to have a logistics infrastructure to support that.

What advice would you offer to someone considering a career in logistics and supply chain management?
I would tell them that before they focus on logistics as an area of study to try to get a summer job at a warehouse and learn what logistics is about from the inside out. Try to help build relationships with management there to understand that.

Once you do that, my personal opinion is that even if you are focused on logistics, move on to a focus on supply chain because you will have a little bit broader background. I think that helps anyone understand how that all fits together and the role logistics plays in the supply chain.

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